jervisjohnsons

So after waking up @ 515am to pick up Naoufal @ 6am, we were both really tired.

We arrived early, of coarse as I am a time Nazi, we started getting set and people were starting to show up, and then I was starting to get little more awake.

Game one Vs Sherridan's Skaven

Sherridans list was a Warlord, a BSB, and 2 engineers one with strom daemon; 4 units of clan rats, 4 rattling guns, tunnelers, 20 jezzails, 2 units of globes, and 2 Warp-L Cannons.

I have played against this type of army before, and I know the nature of it. I set everything up the left flank except for two gnoblar units and a unit of bulls...and then dart down his flank. My Gorger held a unit of Jezzails, for a turn or two, a panic spell made a unit of Jezzails flee off the table as a unit of clanrats fled through them and bounced off the table as well.

The ME unit and Tyrant with BSB got into combat as they charged a center rattling gun, it fled and they declared enemy in the way onto a clanrat unit and as it fled it hit into his BSB's unit, taking the banners and and rats heads as trophies. The fleeing clan rat unit failed to rally on his turn and landed in front of the ME's and they chagred and sent them off the table.

Win for the Ogres.

Game two was vs John Reinhearts DL
My first game against the new DL

Big Pappa
Herald BSB on palaquin
2x10 PB's
17 PB's
2x2 beast things
3 nurglings
and some other beast looking things
2x5 Flesh Hounds
2x5 Furries

To make a long story short I sent my gorger after Big pappa, and held him there for a bit, in time for gnoblars to get into his flank, and held him there for the rest of the turn. The game was pretty fast getting into combat, both of us didn't want to give up the big points, I won the game barely by 385 or something like that, which is like 85 points for the win. I think nurgle/khorne DL is the way to do it!

Game 3 Vs Mike "Big Sexy" Ludwig

I chose to call Mike Big Sexy the whole tournament. In turn, I think my PSY-OPS worked as Ashley got a little jealous, trying to get Mike off of his game.

The table had 4 species of impassable on it and two forrests and a hill. It made it impossible for me to set up on any flanks. So I had to set up center and square off with him.
It was my first game against the New VC, so I was curious to see what it could do.

I used all 3 scrolls in turn one to make his vargulf not dance into my flank and slowing my whole army down for the game. I shot at it caused two wounds,and he raised it back up, it then danced into a unit of bulls, I fled and he hit the tyrant...the tyrant killed it.

My Gorger came up on turn two, and turn three it charged the rear of his unit of doom with all the vamps in it. Im, pretty sure it ate away at his entire rear ranks, until he sent his lord back their. I made it clear that Mike knew that the gorger had K-blow, mike said he knew and had to get rid of the pesky basterd. Lord did two wounds on the beast, I hit back, one hit, I roll the 6...he fails his ward and regen...dies...but he uses the ring and gets back up...booooooooo!

I killed his 2nd Vgulf..my gnoblars held my left flank kill off two units of dogs...

I had killed 4 new units of Zombies, my other gnoblar unit ran off a unit of skellies and took the banner...the game ended on turn 5 as we ran out of time. 1st time ever I did not get to finish a game, to many units to put on and off the board...

Win for ogres

Game 4 vs Mike D.'s Khorne DL

Chirs made the announcement that we were playing on top table, so I knew it was going to be one of us for overall. I was pretty confident that even had I lost, my soft scores would have been solid enough to hold back a 4-0 K-DL...so I decided before the game to play for the draw.

BT
Skull taker
Herald on Jug
2x2 Blood Crushers
2x5 Furies
2x5 Fleshhounds
2x10 BL's
and a big units of BL's

I called Brian before the game and told him how the tourney was going, and I recall telling him and Naoufal that if I played too aggressive he might get enough mods to overtake me for the win. So I would play for the draw.

The idea was to feed Mike the Matchups and give him enough points with smaller units, but taking them to the opposite side of the field..and trying to only deal with the bigger things at a time.

Looking back at it I was not at all comfortable playing this style, as mike was wrecking me.

His BT hit a unit of IG's, killed them and ran into a unit of gnoblars. Mike Decalred that he was going to use his Fly move to get over the gnoblars, I didn't think he could, but he showed me in the book, but the fly move put him in the end of the gnobalrs ranks so he had to hit the front of them. They were angled off with maneaters, so had he hit the ME the gnoblars could flank...and had they hit the Gnoblars the ME's could flank, and they had a ME ion the back rank so someone could retire. from the challange

The ME's cut through a unit of Furies and overran into his BT...the BT challenged, the tyrant went to the back, 6 wounds went on the ME's and I lost CR by 3, everything held. On its next turn my BSB accepted the challange, the BT did 3 wounds to him, I had CR by 6 to his 3...he rolled a 12..and the BT died.

Skulltaker came in along with a herald, ST challenged and my Tyrant accepted...I knew he had KB, but was unaware it was on a 5,6. He rolled two KB's...I made both ward saves and hit back and killed him. The Herald bsb held combat.

On turn 6
A unit of Fleshhounds flanked the gnoblars, overran into the BSB and delivered his killing blow, my tyrant lost combat by 2 as he whiffed to hurt the herald as the herald mopped up on Iron Guts and the bsb gave him CR...and them my tyrant fled off the table...

loss for the ogres

Mike played a really good game and it was a tough one. I got out played, and he deserved the win.

When awards time came I won best sport which was nice!

I had played 4 tough armies and went 3-1 so I was happy with that.
I was shocked to hear my army tied for best painted, but the award went to John R, he had some interesting conversions.
So I knew I had really solid soft scores...and really thought I was going to take overall with a 3-1 over a K-DL 4-0 and a VC 4-0.

I was even more shocked when they announced that John and I tied for 5th place. Not that John didn't deserve it, but I didn't think I was out of contention.

Sherridan went 2-2 and finished 3rd as his wins, were big wins...some guy went 4-0 with VC and took 2nd, and mike D took 1st.

So a few scoring issues, but I have already talked to the DCBG about it and it will be taken care of so that next time it does not happen again.
On the drive home Naoufal and I took a quick analisi of the scores and realized that even had I beat Mike D, his battle scores were to high, and even had I gone 4-0 with my solid soft scores I could not have passed his total.

I do feel a little slighted, but I think I am allowed to feel that way.

I am not disappointed in my play at all or the DCBG, and I am not going to worry about it as I know they will make fixes for next time.

It would have been more of an issue had I won, and not given overall, or more so had I won and given overall when my numbers were lower than Mike D's...so it worked out for the better looking back on it.

Great games with my opponents, and I got to see how DL functions and VS as well. I got to play good players with tough lists, and I had fun. So that is what matters.

FYI you are not allowed to use regeneration against KB.

Also, how did Ludwig's vamp have carstein ring and a ward? The ring is 75 points and the only non-talisman item that gives a ward is 45. . .

This is the third DCBG guns tournament I've read about with scoring issues. (in a row)

Arash wrote:FYI you are not allowed to use regeneration against KB.

Also, how did Ludwig's vamp have carstein ring and a ward? The ring is 75 points and the only non-talisman item that gives a ward is 45. . .

The rulebooks are merely suggestions. (as I have proven time and time again)

He keeps his Lord in the Regen block so the regen ward is passed to the Lord.

I agree with Ed, every event they have scoring issues or issues with Comp. Like then the Tree army got 20/20 in comp and my balanced DE list only got a 12...

Here's ho my games went using Arash's awesome wood elves. I took pretty much his list only using 5 GR instead of WR and giving the Glade Guard standards.

Game 1 vs. Leo's Ghoul horde
He challenged me but I'm not sure why. I never thought ghouls were that hot and still don't. He deployed with his blocks and zombies in the middle where I had nothing and his fast stuff on the flanks not near the vamps. I crushed the slow flanks with number of units and then got all the flank charges I wanted. Big win for me.

Game 2 vs. Andre's TK
He had 2 SSCs, 3 liches, and khalida. 4 scorps, 4 swarms and some other stuff. Prior to the game I was informed that I would be crushed. Instead I decided to hide anything important until turn 5, drew away khalida's block with scouts and glade riders, and then wiped out everything else once they were gone. He got a lucky charge on my Wild riders with khalida's block, but I thought I would atleast get to kill his heirophant. However, he insists that khalida does d3 wounds to single wound models I didn't and I knew I had already won I didn't argue. I walked away with a pretty big win even after they called a judge to check my points .

Game 3 vs. Mike D's Khorne Legion
Mike played a very good game and there was a big thing that happened on turn 3. He had marked his BT with a dice cap on a hill trying to get my treeman, I used my scouts redirected the thirster and blocked of my tree's rear however he removed and replaced his BT on the hill a once or twice so my positioning became skewed and he got the rear on the treeman because where he had replaced him allowed him too. In no way am i calling Mike a cheat but I'm just saying that the situation was too big and if I was the one who was moving the model without marking it off every time i would not have taken the advantage. After that my plan crumbled and with the BT there were too many threats for me to beat. Even though he won big, if he had charged off the board like I had intended I am 90% sure I would have won. Oh well, I guess I just got to play better next time

Game 4 vs. Nick's Tzeentch mortals
He had 4 units and was talking about how his magic would destroy me. Again he deployed mostly in the middle and me in the flank. I fed his knights cheap stuff, magicked and shot one warrior block and the lord on disc then KBed him with dancers. The chariot was taken out by the treeman and the other warrior unit was flanked by WR and Noble. In the end I had another big win.

So in all I went 3-1 with 16/ 20 sports, 15/20 comp, and 8/9 painting (I think) and I think I was 7th so not terrible but could be better, anyway I had fun games and played fun opponents.

Nof, every game I have ever seen you play your models are literally laying all over the table, not even close to ranked up. You shouldn't be one to question someone else's model positioning.

Otherwise, I'm glad I didn't go. Sounds like the same poppy scoring issues I've heard about before. any tournament with "massace" results completely eliminates some armies from contention.

Aaron, you should do Dark Elves with me man. The way you play Ogres that army should be a perfect fit for you, and the new stuff is badass.

@kistler
Yea I am building DE, I am doing the "Underground Sea" army in the fluff they talk about a lost civilization down there...I believe that is what I will be taking to crossroads. Have yet to test it out though.

@Arash
Not sure how Ludwig got the ward, but he had it, you will have to ask him as I do not have the book with me.

@Nidal
Can you use regen vs Killing Blow? Book is not handy

Why are you asking Nidal about regen against killing blow. He doesn't know shit.

Anyway, you can't use regen against killing blow.

Nice report both of you.

Nof- Why did you use Arash's army? Don't you own your own WE army? Or was it for the painting score .

Punk wrote:Not sure how Ludwig got the ward, but he had it, you will have to ask him as I do not have the book with me.

By the power of Ludwig!

mkistler wrote:Aaron, you should do Dark Elves with me man. The way you play Ogres that army should be a perfect fit for you, and the new stuff is badass.

I have been working really hard at the list over the past few weeks.

I can't seem to stick in the right direction. I want to do magic Heavy, but I keep swaying towards 2 lvl2's.

I worked in some nice combos I think but then I feel like I should just play dwarves as that is the army style that I am building with 150+ elfs.

I hope GW makes a F'N new army or something soon, as the only thing really making me stick to DE is the Underworld Sea fluff...

magic heavy is really good, but unreliable, as magic usually us. I was using the Lvl14 on the Dragon which is insane, I was having 17pd phases. But now that I tried the Executioners Axe lord in a Black Guard block, with ASF Banner, and Hydra banner BsB, I'm sold. That unit is impossible to kill in combat with that retarded number of dice it throws out.

Harp Eternal Guard'll beat it

Not even close man. That unit throws out 15 S4 WS5 Eternal Hatred attacks, 5 Axe attacks, 4 S6 form the BsB, that's a whole lotta hurt.